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The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators

The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators

The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators exists to document and honor the lived experiences of Black educators who have chosen to leave the profession. Grounded in archival justice, the podcast uplifts their stories as a powerful form of truth-telling, healing, and resistance. By centering Black voices and their reasons for leaving—and staying—it sparks critical conversations about wellness, racial battle fatigue, and what it truly takes to transform educational spaces into ones where Black educators can thrive.

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Setting Boundaries, Finding Healing with Khiara "Mills" Mills

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Dec. 22, 2025

Setting Boundaries, Finding Healing with Khiara "Mills" Mills

In this episode, Dr. Asia Lyons interviews Khiara "Mills" Mills, a licensed therapist and former school counselor, about her journey through education, mental health, and personal growth. Mills shares how setting boundaries became a cornerstone of her healing, both professionally and personally. Sh…
Dec. 9, 2025

Calling On Ancestral Wisdom with Dr. Jeanine L. Williams

In this episode, Dr. Asia welcomes Jeanine L. Williams, PhD, a retired educator turned ancestral medicine woman, for a powerful conversation about liberation, sovereignty, and healing beyond academia. Dr. Williams shares her journey through higher education, the challenges of navigating oppressive …
Nov. 25, 2025

When Silence Is Violence with Kamye Hugley

In this episode, I sit down with educator and bibliophile Kamye Hugley to explore what happens when Black women in education refuse to stay quiet in the face of harm. Kamye traces her journey from her grandmother's urging to be a teacher, to a Teach For America placement that threw her from third …
Nov. 10, 2025

Black Educator Wellness & The Cost of Leadership with Dr. Ashlee Saddler, MSW

In this impactful episode of The Exit Interview, Dr. Ashlee Saddler shares her journey from being a mental health professional to becoming an educational leader, highlighting the unique challenges she faced as a Black woman in mostly white school systems. She discusses the emotional and physical to…
Oct. 28, 2025

When We Believe In Black Children with Whitney Redd

In this impactful episode of The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators, Oakland educator Whitney Redd discusses how her experience in after-school programs, youth shelters, and mental health settings has shaped her approach to teaching, combining heart, structure, and intentionality. After …
Oct. 14, 2025

How Radical Self-Care Saved Me with Dr. Franita Ware

In this heartfelt episode of The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators, Dr. Asia interviews Dr. Franita Nita Ware, an educator, author, and creator of Warm Demander Teachers. They discuss Dr. Ware's unexpected journey from substitute teacher to scholar, focusing on her purpose, joy, and com…

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Feb. 5, 2025

Breaking Free: Najmah Ahmad on Achievement Addiction, Nonprofit Burno…

Breaking Free: Najmah Ahmad on Achievement Addiction, Nonprofit Burnout, and the Journey to Wellness In the latest episode of The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators, host Dr. Asia Lyons sits down with Najmah Ahmad, an educator, consultan…

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Aug. 20, 2024

The Value of Black Therapists in Addressing Racial Battle Fatigue

In the face of persistent racial injustice and systemic oppression within school systems, the mental health of Black educators can be significantly impacted. Racial battle fatigue, characterized by chronic stress, anxiety, and emotional exhaustion, …

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Aug. 19, 2024

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  <h2>Introduction</h2> <p> In today's fast-paced educational landscape, educators and educational leaders are facing unprecedented levels of stress, burnout, and mental health challenges. Amidst the constant pressure t…

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